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The Tate family came from West Sussex, inland from Brighton and married
into the Dolman family of the Midlands. One of life's great mysteries is how
Alice Tate, a girl born to a publican in Brighton came to meet a meat salesman
from Wolverhampton: an early holiday romance, perhaps as a result of new
railway travel? For the Dolman family see Dolman 01.
The Tates were employed in agriculture, as labourers and latterly as
wheelwrights. Alice's father was the publican.
The family was documented by a family member, Lashbrook Laker, a nephew of
our Thomas Tate snr, who emigrated to the USA in the mid 19thC. Some of his
work is of uncertain accuracy.
Alice's mother was born near Reading, and so another mystery is how she and
her husband, Thomas Tate jnr, met when they, with their humble backgrounds
lived some 100 miles apart.
The Reading Record Office holds good records for the King family in the
area: interestingly, there are Goddards in the same area from which the King
family originated. Maybe this was the connection. The King family were
agricultural based and mostly labourers; the earlier ones left little trace
beyond parish records.
The West Sussex Record Office in Chichester has a good collection of parish
and other records, which have been studied, but need further work (7/2004)
|WILLIAM TATE??? (1696)
|George Tate (b1706)
|GEORGE TATE Snr (1745-1827)
| |Sarah Dale
|GEORGE TATE(1776-1846)
|THOMAS TATE (1) (B 1809)
| |THOMAS NEAL (1736)
| |Mary Neal (1776-1846)
| | |JOHN GARLAND
| |Jane Garland
| | |JASPER PECKWELL
| |Elizabeth Peckwell
|THOMAS TATE (2)(1837-76)
| |
| | |WILLIAM CARTER??
| |AGNES CARTER GODDARD(1809)
| | |HOLLAND GODDARD??
| | |WILLIAM GODDARD (1723?-)
| | |DAVID GODDARD(B 1761)
| | | | |WILLIAM GREENFIELD
(1710)
| | | | | | |MAURICE GREENFIELD
| | | | | | |JOHN GREENFIELD
| | | | | |PHILADELPHIA GREENFIELD
| | | |Sarah Greenfield (1735-)
| | | |MARGARET POCOCK
| |KITTY GODDARD (1791)
|
ALICE ADA TATE (B 1863)
| |WILLIAM KING 3
| |THOMAS KING (1702)
| |WILLIAM KING (1730)
| | | |John Knight
| | |Elizabeth Knight
| | |Temperance
| |WILLIAM KING (1766-1831)
| | | |THOMAS COOK
| | | |John Cook (1696)
| | | | | |THOMAS RESTALL
| | | | |MARY RESTALL
(1669-)
| | | | |ELIZABETH
BRIERHURST
| | | |PETER COOK (1713)
| | | | | |JOHN MORGAN
| | | | |Ann Morgan (1687-)
| | |Elizabeth Cook
| |JOHN KING (1804-1893)
|ANNE KING (B 1838)
| |THOMAS WATKINS
| |THOMAS WATKINS(B 1745)
| | |MARY KESSEL
| |GEORGE WATKINS (1784)
| | | |THOMAS MAYE??
| | | |ROBERT MAY
(??1658-)
| | | |ANTHONY MAY (1688-)
| | | | |ALICE FIELD
| | | |ANTHONY MAY (1725)
| | |Ann May (1752-)
| | | |JOHN DEANE
| | | |JOHN DEANE (1693-)
| | | |MARY BLACKMAN
| | |Ann Deane
|Ann Watkins
| |EDWARD RAPLEY
| |Edward Rapley
| | |HANNAH NUBRY??
| |JOHN RAPLEY (1726)
| | | |THOMAS WILLIS
| | |ELIZABETH WILLIS
| | |ANN HORN
| |JOHN RAPLEY (1757)
| | |Sarah Wray
|Sarah Rapley
Berkshire Family
Sources:
The initial source for the Tate and Dolman families was:
DOLMAN BIBLE Family Register
This derivation of the Dolman/Tate family genealogy was started with the entries
in a traditional family bible as follows:
Parent's Names:
Thomas Tate, born 30 January 1838
Anne King, born 18 February 1838.
Children's Names:
Alice Blanche Tate, born Feb 18 18--. (date scratched out)
Emily Caroline Tate, born June 5 1861
Alice Ada Tate, born Nov 29 1863
James Thomas Tate, born May 6 1866
Harry Tate, born Dec 27 1870.
Marriages:
Alice Ada Tate, married Oct 26 1885
Emily Mary Dolman born Aug 15 1886
Enoch Herbert born Oct 4 1888
Ethel Dolman June 10 1890
Florence Dolman born Aug 23 1892
Reginald Dolman born Dec 16 1894
Deaths:
Alice Blanche Tate Died May 26 18--.
1. Civil BMD Records 2. Parish Records.
3. IGI/AF. 4. Census.
5. Family interview. 6: Newspaper & other publications
7: Wills 8: Tombstone
9. Family History 9a: Bible
9p: Photo Albums.
Other sources have been from internet contacts and web downloads.
KO/04/02
Birth Certificate held.
Born1: April 23 1892 @ Merridale Rd, Wolverhampton. ....
Parents: Enoch & Alice Ada (Tate) Dolman
Married: Frederic Kirk Owen Owen Pages (no trace on
St C Indexes)
Died: abt 1968, Canada.
Ref Elizabeth Kirk-Owen (nee Chadwick), Florence's daughter-in-law:
Rex's mother was a Dolman from the Wolverhampton area, possibly Glenthorne,
Penn, Wolverhampton. This of born out by birth records and the family bible
which shows his mother's, Florence, mother to have been born Alice Ada Tate.
Frederick and Florence moved to Canada before the Great War to a farm
bought by Alice Ada near Calgary after the death of Enoch, Florence's father.
It is probable that they met in Canada or possibly in England: no trace of
their marriage was found between 1912-14 on St C Indexes).
Florence was injured in a riding accident and walked with a severe limp for
the rest of her life: EAK-O describes her as a "loving person".
Photographs exist of her at Rex's wedding in 1947 and again in 1964.
Issue (inter alia, see Owens):
1/1. Reginald (Rex) Kirk-Owen.
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KO/05/03
Born1: 8/10/1861 at 1, George St, Burton.
Parents: Enoch (1) & Phoebe (Coley) Dolman
Died1: 16/2/1898, aged 36 (W'ton 6b 364 3/98), 76, Merridale Rd,
W'ton aged 36, meat salesman, of Abcess in the abdomen, Phoebe Dolman present.
Married1: Alice Ada Tate 26/10/1885 @ St Andrew's, Portslade.
Steyning 2b497 12/1885.
Enoch Dolman (age 24, bachelor, occupation: Butcher, residence Burton on Trent)
& Alice Ada Tate (age 22, spinster, residence Portslade by Sea) married
26/10/1885 at St Andrews Church, Portslade by Sea.
Fathers: Enoch Dolman (Butcher) and Thomas Tate (dead).
Witnesses: ?? Card (?) & Emily Card (?).
KO05/04
Birth & Marriage certs held. Bible entry.
Born1: 29/11/1863 @ The Half Brick Beer House, Portslade
Birth Certificate registered 18/1/1864, (Steyning 2b258 3/1864)
Parents: Thomas & Ann (King) Tate.
1871 Census: @ Clarendon Arms, North St, Portslade with mother
1881 Census: @ Clarendon Arms, North St, Portslade with mother & step father.
1885: resident at Portslade by Sea.
1901 Census, 76, Merridale Rd, Wolverhampton.
(Hd, wid, 37, Meat saleswoman, Portslade), Emma (11, W'ton), Enoch (12, W'ton),
Ethel (10, W'ton), Florence (8, W'ton), Reginald (7, W'ton). Elizabeth Thrupp
(servant, 21, Willenhall).
No trace up to 1940 was found of her will: did she remarry?
An Ada Alice Dolman died 1888 Q1, Northampton, 3b 39, aged 1.
Ada Dolman married Q4 1907, Burton on Trent 6b 697.
Alternatives: William King or William Measham.
Issue of Enoch & Alice Ada (Tate) Dolman (all born Wolverhampton):
1/1. Emily Dolman, born 15/8/18869a,
married Reginald Montgomery whose brother became Viscount M of Alamein. She lived near Belfast.
1/2. Enoch Dolman, born 2/10/18889a,
1/3. Ethel Dolman, born 10/6/18909a, she married.
1/4. Florence Dolman, born 23/4/18929a,
1/5. Reginald Dolman, born 16/12/18949a.
Went to Canada, but disappeared.
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KO06/07
The father of Alice Ada Birth PR checked & Marriage Certificate held.
Dolman Bible & PR Shows:
Born2,9a: 31/1/1838, ch 4/3/1838 @ Steyning (PR only, no civil
reg).
Parents: Thomas & Agnes Tate
Died (D/Cert held)1: 8/6/1876, age 38, Innkeeper, of peritonitis, at
The Clarendon Arms, North St, Portslade. Ann Tate at death.
His birthday is given as 30 Jan 1838 in the family bible, but his age in the
1841 census is given as 4, making him born about 1836-37. No civil record
exists of his birth after legal registration in June 1837.
The Parish records show Thomas Tate, son of Thomas & Agnes being christened
4/3/1838, his father being a wheelwright. His father's trade is confirmed on
his marriage certificate: there is little doubt that this is the correct connection.
He himself seemed a little uncertain about his birth: in 1861 he did not know
his birth place, but by 1871, he gave it as Steyning. His father was a
wheelwright in Beeding by 1851, when Thomas was a 15 year old labourer.
He married Ann King in 1859 in Brighton, when they lived at Portland St: he
worked as a brewer's labourer. When their daughter, Alice, was born, he was a
beerhouse keeper at the Half Brick Beerhouse in Portslade (no longer existing
in 1994). He died 1876 at the Clarendon Arms, North St, Portslade, although
his family still lived in Portslade. His wife remarried and remained at the
Pub.
The Dolman bible has an entry for Alice Blanche's birth on 18/2 and death
26/5 but in both cases with the year scratched out: the King census shows a
Blanche aged 1 in 1851. Either Alice Blanche died early or maybe was
illegitimate daughter of Ann King when she was very young. Ann was not at
Swallowfield in 1851.
Will: He left a simple will, dated 7 June 1876, the day before he died, leaving
all his real and personal estate to his wife Ann, who was also his executrix.
He was described as a licensed victualler. The will was proved in Lewes
24/7/1876, with assets less than 100 sterling.
Married1: Ann King 29/10/1858 @ Brighton.
(2B305 Brighton 12/1859).
KO06/08
Birth & Marriage certificates held.
This Line is continued below under Berkshire Family.
Dolman Bible, Cert & PR show:
Born: 18 Feb 1838 at Riseley Common, Swallowfield, Berks.
PR: Ch 18 March at Swallowfield
... father John, labourer, mother Ann, formerly Watkins,
(Wokingham (for Swallowfield ref census) 6 289 3/38)
Parents: John & Ann (Watkins) King
Married1: 1st. Thomas Tate (2), 29/10/1859 at Brighton.
2nd. Benjamin Wood (b 1848, re Census81)
He evidentially took on the Clarendon Arms after Thomas' death.
Died: between 1881 & 1891. From BMD Index, probably died Q3 1888, Steyning,
2b 160.
1841 Census: at Swallowfield with mother, but not present in 1851.
Census 1861 & 71: see Thomas Tate (2).
1881 Census: Clarendon Arms, North St, Portslade.
Benjamin Wood (33, Licensed Victualer), Ann Wood (42, Swallowfield), Thomas
Tate (15, son, Butchers Asst, Portslade), Alice Tate (19, Scholar, Portslade).
1891 Census: Clarendon Arms, Benjamin Wood, widower, publican.
Issue of Thomas & Anne (King) Tate:
1/19a. Alice Blanche Tate (Dolman Bible only - DoB erased),
BMD Index Brighton Blanche Alice Tate born Q2 1860, 2b 154.
1/29a. Emily Tate 5/6/1861. (Bible & C71)
Poss Cert Ref: Brighton 2b21
1/3. Alice Ada Tate 29/11/1863.
(Bible, C71 & 81)
1/49a. James Thomas Tate 6/5/1866. (Bible, C71, C81)
Cert Ref,
Steyning 2b243
1871 Census, at Portslade with parents.
1871 Census, Stonery House, Portslade:
William Reed (49, Gardner master employing 10 men, Hangleton), Maria 41,
Handerose Sussex), (Mark, 18, Upper Beeding), Frank (15, Portslade), Anna Maria
(14, P'lade), Georgina (11, P'lade), William George (6, P'lade), Albert Edward
(4, P'lade).
1881 census,
with mother at Portslade.
1881 Census, Stonery, Portslade:
William Reed (59, Farmer 60 acres, emp 8 men, 2 boys, Huncleton Sussex), Maria
(54, Crawley), Frank (25, Gardner) Georgina (21), Hariett (19), William George
(16, Carpenter), Albert Edward (14, Gardner).
1891 Census, 16, St James St, Kemp Town, Brighton
James T Tate (24, Butcher, Portslade), Harriet (28, Portslade).
1901 Census, 16 St James St, Brighton:
James T Tate (34, Hd, Shopkeeper, Portslade), Harriett (Wf, 39, Portslade),
Laurie (dau, 9, Children Brighton), Thomas (8), Harry(7), Frank(4), Georgina
Reed (s-in-law, Single, 41, Portslade)
Married Harriet Reed (b abt 1863, Portslade).
2/1. Laurie Tate, abt 1892
2/2. Thomas Tate, abt 1893
2/4. Harry Tate, abt 1894
2/5. Frank Tate, abt 1897
1/59a. Henry Tate 29/12/1870. (Bible, C71)
1891 Census,
Wolverhampton: Butcher with Enoch Dolman.
1901 not found
DETAILS of THOMAS TATE
1841 Census: At Steyning: Thomas Tate (30), Agnes (30), Ann (6), William (5),
Thomas (4), Emeline (1). All born in Sussex.
1851 Census, High St Beeding:
With parents: Thomas Tate (15, Agricultural Labourer, Steyning).
Married at St Nicholas Parish Church, Brighton 29/10/1859. Both aged 21,
bachelor & spinster, residing at 40, Portland St; he a labourer.
His father Thomas, a Wheelwright, her's John, a farmer.
Witnesses: John Shelley & Caroline Wilson.
1861 Census: At 41, Portland St, Portslade:
Thomas Tate (23, a Brewer's Labourer, birth place N.K). Ann Tate (23,
Swallowfield, Berks)
1871 Census: Portslade: Thomas (33), a publican, Ann (33), Emily (9), Alice
(7), Thomas (4), Henry (1). (+Mary Ann Butcher, servant).
Also at Portslade: William Tate + family, Thomas's brother.
1881 Census:
Ann remarried in Portslade
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KO07/13
The father of Thomas Tate (2).
Ch2: 27/3/1809 @ Findon (AF also)
Parents: George & Mary Tate.
Died aft 1891. A possibility from BMD Index: St Saviour, Southwark, Q1 1895, b
abt 1808.
Tithe awards (1840), show Thomas Tate living in a cottage and garden near the
church in Steyning.
1841 Census, At Markington, Steyning:
Thomas Tate (30), Agnes (30), Ann (6), William (5), Thomas (4), Emeline (1).
All born in Sussex.
1851 Census, High St Beeding:
Thomas Tate (42, Wheelwright, Findon), Agnes (42, Beeding), William (16, Ag
Lab, Steyning), Thomas (15, Ag Lab, Steyning), Caroline (11), Frederick (6),
Alfred (10), Geering (4), Edward (1), all remainder born @ Beeding.
Some confusion about Emeline/Caroline: prob the same.
1859: still a wheelwright when son Thomas was married.
Steyning and Beeding are only about 2 miles apart. The Beeding parish was
divided about 1835 into Upper and Lower: Upper is the original church close to Steyning.
1861 Census, Portslade St, Portslade:
Thomas (46, Wheelwright, Findon), Agnes (48), Ann (35, dressmaker, Steyning),
Frederick (16, bricklayer), Geering (14, scholar, Beeding).
1871 Census, 15, Rump St, Brighton:
Thomas (61, Carpenter, Findon), Agnes (61, Beeding).
1881 Census, 2 Frederick Gardens, Brighton:
Thomas Tate (68, Carpenter, Findon), Agnes (71, Beeding).
1891 Census, 18, Swift Cottages, Portslade. Portslade-91-34-15.
Charles White (56, bricklayer, Worthing), Elizabeth (52, Hustpierpoint), Thomas
Tate (Wid, Boarder, 84, Wheelwright, Findon).
Married2: Agnes Carter Goddard @ Beeding 27/1/1832 (witness Jane
Tate)
KO07/14
She was the mother of Thomas Tate (2). Note that there were Goddards in the
same area in which Ann King, her daughter-in-law, was raised.
Ch2: 25/9/1809 @ Beeding.
Parents: Base born daughter of Kitty Goddard (Carters at Beeding)
Died: prob Q1 1889, Steyning 2b 191.
IGI has her father as William Carter, who married Kitty in the November.
Married: Thomas Tate @ Beeding 27/1/1832.
Issue of Thomas & Agnes Tate (ch PR):
1/1. Agnes Tate, ch Steyning, 22/11/1832,
Died 1837 (Peter East).
1/2. Ann Tate, ch Steyning, 10/8/1834.
1/3. William Tate, ch Findon, 28/12/18352.
Married
Elizabeth Witler 1859, Steyning (Peter East)
1841 Census, @ Steyning age 5
1851 Census: Ag Lab in Beeding age 16.
1861 Census: Upper Beeding High St
William (24 Shepherd, Steyning), Elizabeth 22, Shoreham), Emmeline (1).
1871 Census, Portslade: William (35, Shepherd, Steyning), Elizabeth (33,
Shoreham), Emmeline (11, Steyning), Agnes (9, Beeding), Frederick (7, Beeding),
Alfred (5, Beeding).
1891 Census: 1, Gardner St, Portslade:
Henry Green (Hd), William Tate (boarder, Wid, 54 Gen Lab, Steyning).
1891 Census: Portslade:
William Christopher Strange (67, Decorator, London), Sarah (60, Poynings,
Sussex).
1901: 126 Trafalgar Rd, Portslade, a possibility.
William Tate (66, Labourer, Steyning), Sarah (70, Brighton), Frederick (42,
Labourer, Steyning), Annie Strange (d-in-law, 32, Hove), Florrie Strange
(g-dau, 6, Gosport).
Issue:
2/1. Emeline Tate born Steyning, 1860.
2/2. Agnes Tate born Beeding, 1863.
2/3. Frederick Tate born Beeding, 1864.
1881 Census,
Abinger Rd, Portslade:
James Terry (Hd), Frederick Tate (Lodger, 18, Lab, Beeding).
1891 with brother Alfred.
1901 with parents in Portslade.
2/4. Alfred Tate born Beeding, 1866,
M. Rosina
Turner. prob 1885.
Also registered marriage Alfred Thomas Tate (Steyning, 2b520, 12/1885) at the same
time as Alice Ada Tate.
1891 Census: 16 Abinger Rd, Portslade:
Alfred (25, Insurance Agent, Brighton), Rosina (25, Laundress, Portslade)
Alfred (4, Portslade), Frederick (brother, 27, General Labourer, Brighton)
1/4. Thomas Tate, ch Steyning,
31/1/1838.
1/5. Emeline Tate, ch Beeding, 12/7/1840, (C41 & PE), died 1857.
1/6. Alfred Tate, ch Beeding, 1841, C41. Died 1861 (PE)
1/7. Frederick Tate, ch Beeding, IGI ch 2/3/1845 Findon.
1871 not found.
1/8. Geering Tate, ch Beeding, 1847, IGI
& C51,
1/9. Edward Tate, ch Beeding, 1850, IGI & C51.
1871 not found.
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KO08/25 (2NCV-FD)
He was the father of Thomas Tate (1).
Ch 26/1/1776 at Findon. (PR/IGI/AF)
Parents: George & Sarah Tate.
Died: 21/6/1846 @ Findon (AF).
Bur: George Tate of Nepcote Findon 21/6/1846 age 70 (PR).
Married (PR): Mary Neal Petworth 18/2/1798, both of Petworth
The work of Lashbrook Laker shows George being married to Mary Tank, but no
Parish Record evidence has been found. The marriage to Mary Neal is the only
one between a George Tate and a Mary. There were none in the relevant period in
Findon. They probably moved (back?) from Petworth to Findon about 1803.
Tithe Awards, 1839, show George snr living next to George jnr a little north
of the gates of Findon Park, in houses and gardens. He probably worked on the
Findon Estate (for Lord Goring?).
1841 Census, Nepcote:
Geo Tate (65, Wheelwright, Y), Mary (65, Y), Albert (6, inmate, Y).
George, the son, was at Nepcote in Census 51, born in Petworth 1802.
Mary, wife of George snr, age at death corresponds with date of birth in Pulborough.
These facts show the connection with Petworth and West Sussex.
AF has a different spouse for George and repeat children entries under different
reference numbers, both numbers are included, issue by Mary Tank & Mary
Marner included: for more comments see at the end of this section.
KO08/26
Most likely (IGI):
Ch: 22/6/1774 @ Pulborough.
Parents: Thomas & Jane (Garland) Neal
Married (PR): George Tate 18/2/1798, Petworth.
Died: Mary wife of George of Nepcote bur
Findon 1/5/42 age 68 (PR). (this confirms date of birth).
Issue of George & Mary (Neal) Tate, Ch (IGI) as noted,
1/1. Mary Tate, ch. 29/6/1798 Petworth, IGI.
1/2. Sarah Tate, ch. 26/1/1800 Petworth, IGI
1/3. George Tate, ch. 3/1/1802 Petworth, IGI,
Married Frances
Kidd (IGI)
(AF: MFJ7-D7, born 1801)
George Tate jnr living in house next to father in Findon, 1839.
1841 Census, Findon: George (35, Wheelwright), Frances (35), George (14,
Labourer) Jane (12) Child (Henry? 8) Mary Ann (2)
1851 Census, Nepcote, Findon: George (49, master W'wright empl. 1 man,
Petworth), Frances (49 Lancing), George (24, W'wright, Fin) Henry 18, W'wright,
Fin), Sarah Ann (12 Fin), Eliza (7 Fin).
Married: Frances Kidd (date & place n/k: FK b. Lancing 1802)
1861 Census, Findon:
George Tate (59, Wheelwright), Frances (59), Sarah A (22, Dressmaker, Findon).
Next entry in Findon, Harriet Tate (wid, 32, Barnet, Middx), Edwin (son, 3,
Findon). Who was this??
1871 Census, Nepcote, Findon:
George Tate (69, Wheelwright), Frances (59), Henry (g/son, 15 Wheelwright's
assistant, Brighton).
1881 not found.
Issue of George
& Frances Tate, Ch Findon (IGI):
2/1. Fanny Tate, ch. 26/9/1824,
IGI shows Fanny
Tate m. John Ayling, Findon 5/8/1850.
PR: Fanny, father George Tate (wheelwright), John Ayling, Bricklayer, baseborn,
father Isaac.
1861 Census, 9, Bath Place, Broadwater, Shoreham.
John Ayling (40, Bricklayer, Worthing), Fanny (36, Lodging House Keeper,
Findon), Sarah A. (s-in-law, dressmaker, Findon)
1871 Census, 2 Western Terrace, Broadwater:
John Ayling (50, Bricklayer Journeyman, Worthing), Fanny (46), Catherine F Tate
(niece, 12, Servant Domestic, Brighton).
1881 Census, 3 West St, Broadwater, Sussex.
John Ayling (60, bricklayer), Fanny (56, Lodging House Keeper), Catherine
(niece, 21, Gen Servant), Florence (niece, 17, Gen Servant).
2/2. George Tate, ch. 15/10/1826.
1861 not found
2/3. Jane Tate,
ch. 24/5/1829.
2/4. Henry Tate, ch. 9/9/1832.
1861 Census, 32
George St, Hove:
Henry Tate (28, Carpenter, Findon), Catherine (30, Carpenter's wife, Penryn,
Cornwall), Henry (5, scholar, Brighton), Catherine (3, Hove), James George (1
mth, Hove).
1871 No sign of James George.
3/1. Henry Tate, abt 1856.
1871 Census, with G/father George.
3/2. Catherine Tate abt 1858
1871 & 1881 with Aunt Fanny.
3/3. James George Tate, 1861.
2/5. Mary Tate,
ch. 3/9/1837.
2/6. Sarah Ann Tate, ch. 5/5/1839.
2/7. Eliza Tate, ch. 3/12/1843.
1/4. William Tate 1/4/1804 Findon. IGI
A William Tate
lived in a house in Findon in 1839 (Tithes), tenant of John Bright, and was a
tenant of Charles Goring on 12.75 acres in 2 meadows.
PR: William Tate of Nepcote, buried Findon, 10/6/1840 age 39.
Also AF shows: (MFJF-HK)
Married(1): Harriet Godley (MFJF-JQ) Born: Abt 1808 Findon, Sussex,
2/1. Harriet Tate (MFJF-KW) Chr.: 31 May 1839 Findon, Sussex,
Married(2): Catherine (MFJF-CV) Born: Abt 1797 Findon, Catherine Tate, wife of
William died 1/7/1839, aged 40. (PR)
2/2. William Ward Tate (MFJF-D2) Born: Abt 1832 Findon,
Findon PR: William Ward Tate infant son of William & Katherine bur 6/1/1823.
2/3. Albert Tate (MFJF-F7) Born: 2 Nov 1834 Findon, Sussex.
1861 not found.
2/4. Walter Ward Tate (MFJF-GD) Born: 19 Sep 1836 Findon,
1861 not found.
1/5. Jane Tait (MFJ7-FD) Born: 25 Aug 1806 Findon, Sussex,
AF only.
AF also has entry: (1JHL-X0) Born: CA 1803 (48-1851) Findon,
Married: John Laker III (1JHL-WS) of Shipley.
Born: Abt 1808 West Grinsted, Sussex,
2/1. Lashbrook Laker (1G7L-X1)
Born: 21 Apr
1835 Lower Beeding, Sussex, England
Married: Annie Bryceson (1RJ4-86)
Born: 12 Jul 1832 Commercial Road, Stepney, East London
Married: Kate Cornelia Evans (1G7L-Z6)
Dau of Cornelius & Catherine (Batten) Evans.
Born: 10 Feb 1863 Morgan, Morgan County, UT.
Issue of Lashbrook & Kate (Evans) Laker:
3/1. Daniel Cornelius Laker, Born 27/04/1885.
Married: Martha
R. Woodhouse.
Issue:
4/1. Bryan Laker
5/1. Miss Laker
Married: George Pearson, born 1946.
3/2. Minnie Baize Laker, b 29/03/1891.
M. William Reuben Moyes, descendant of Deacon Samuel Wright, b 1625/1626 in England.
Married: Elizabeth Ann Batten (QXTD-CS) Born: [1835]
2/2. Jane Laker (1JHM-55) Chr.: 13 Apr 1837 Merstham, Surrey,
Married: Thomas Hunter (BBR3-N8) Born: Abt 1834 Of Merstham, Sussex.
2/3. Susan Laker (1JHM-6B) Chr.: 18 Nov 1839 Merstham,
Surrey, Married: John Vosler (BBR3-PF) Born: [1839] Of Merstham, Suss,
2/4. William Laker (1JHM-7H) Chr.: 6 Feb 1842 Merstham,
Married: Sarah Tank (BBR3-QL) Born: [1842] Of Merstham, Suss,
2/5. John Laker
(1JHM-8N) Chr.: 6/10/1844 Merstham, Surrey.
Of Kate Evans, inter alia:
2/6. Minnie Baize Laker,
who married William Moyes, whose ancestry has been researched by Ellen Baker, ref email 9/2003.
1/6. Sarah Tait (MFJ7-GK) Born: Abt 1809
Findon, Sussex, AF only.
1/7. Thomas Tate (MFJ7-HQ) (MFJD-WH)
Chr.: 27 Mar 1809 Findon, Sussex, AF & PR.
1/8. Susan Tate (AF: MFJD-XN) IGI: 10/5/1812 Findon
AF: Susan Tait
(MFJ7-JW) Born: Abt 1811 Findon, Sussex,
Married: Thomas Marner, 3/11/1830 @ Findon.
The following appear, but may not be relevant.
1851 Census, Findon:
Thomas Marner (34m Bricklayer Journeyman, Findon), Susannah (33, Wife,
Hermanbury), Michael (5, Scholar, Findon), Fanny (4, Findon), Samuel (2,
Findon)
1861 Census, Findon, possible:
Thomas Marner (wid, 53, bricklayer, Findon)
1871 Census, Mill Cottages, Findon:
Thomas Marner (54, Bricklayer, Findon), Susannah M (53, Hermanbury), Samuel J
(22, Bricklayer's Lab., Findon), Tom Carver (18, Bricklayer's Lab, Findon),
Harry Sidney (14, Errand Boy, Findon).
1/9. Mary Tait (MFJ7-K3) Born: 1813
Findon, Sussex, AF only.
1/10. William Tait (MFJ7-L8) Born: 1815 Findon, Sussex, AF only.
ANCESTRAL FILE
The LDS Ancestral File shows George Tate Snr marrying both Mary Tank and Mary
Marner at Findon, but there is no evidence of this in the Parish Records. He is
also said to have married Susannah Marner, but this George Tate came from West
Tarring (now in Worthing) and was probably born in Sompting 16/10/1774 of
George & Ann Holter. This marriage was 12/6/1802 in Findon.
PR: George T of West Tarring m. Susanna Marner of Findon 2/1802.
AF shows George Tate (incorrectly) married:
Mary Marner (MFJD-T5) Born: Abt 1773 Of Findon, Sussex,
THOMAS and Sarah MARNER
They were the parents of Mary Marner and had other children: Hannah, Richard,
Thomas, Elisabeth, William, Michael and Benjamin. (ref WDB).
MARY MARNER
According to AF, she was the mother of Thomas Tate (1).
She was born in Findon and christened on 21 Sept 1783. Her parents were Thomas
and Sarah Marner.
AF Submitter: AFTAIT01, 02, 03 Owen J. Cook, AF91-100489 11794, Eton Drive,
Grand Terrace, Ca. 92324,
KO08/28
The mother of Agnes Goddard.
PR shows: Ch 24/4/1791 at Beeding (no doubt that she was "Kitty")
IGI shows: Phillidelphia ch 24/4/1791 at Beeding (parents same).
Parents: David & ????????
1841 Census, Beeding: Phillip Goddard (25, Taylor), Ruth (30), Kitty (50).
Married: None recorded. Carters figure in the PR.
IGI shows "Philly" Goddard marrying William Carter 27/11/1809 at
Beeding. This was probably her. IGI has Agnes parents as William Carter &
Philly Goddard.
BMD Index: Philly Carter died Q2 1839, Steyning 7 316.
It is thus reasonable to assume that Agnes' father was William Carter, but
the church was being somewhat pedantic about the names, as they were married a
couple of months after Agnes' birth.
Issue:
1/1. Agnes Carter Goddard (PR 25/9/1809),
Beeding, mother Philly. IGI, Upper Beeding, mother Philly:
1/2. Lavinia Carter, (26/2/1811), d.
3/12/1814
1/3. Peter Carter, (14/10/1812), d 18/10/1812.
1/4. John Carter, (23/9/1813),
Married,
Elizabeth Kelsey Norris, Upper Beeding, 27/2/1837 (IGI).
Elizabeth ch 6/5/1810, Steyning of Phillip & Charlotte.
1851 Census, Lower Horton, Beeding.
John Carter (37, Ag Lab, Beeding), Elizt Kelsey (41, Steyning), Moses (10,
scholar, Beeding), Willm Alf (8, scholar, Beeding), Charlotte (6, scholar,
Beeding), Robert Henry (2)
1861 Census, Horton Hall, Beeding:
John Carter (47,
Farm Bailiff, Beeding), Elizabeth Kelsey Carter (51, Steyning), William Alfred
(10, Apprentice Wheelwright, Beeding), Frederick (nephew, 3, Brighton).
1871 Census, Park Lodge, West Grinstead:
John Carter (57, Farm Lab, Beeding), Elizbt Kelsey (61, Steyning), Charlotte H
(dau, 26, no occupation, Beeding).
1881 Census, Swan Inn, Washington, Shoreham:
Frederick Sayers (Layers?) (32, Publican, Arhurst), Charlotte Hope (34, Wife,
Beeding), John Carter (wid, wife's father, 68, Farm Bailiff, West Grinstead)
1891 Census not found.
2/1. Norris Carter, 20/9/1840, Upper Beeding (IGI).
2/2. Charlotte Ann Carter, 8/6/1845, Upper Beeding (IGI).
2/3. Elizabeth Kelsy Carter, 5/12/1852, UB (IGI).
1/5. Lavinia Carter, (1/1/1816),
1/6. George Carter, (1 or 7/1/1816).
1851 Census,
Hammer, Lower Beeding:
William Carter (68, Ag Lab, Midhurst), Elizabeth (61, Billingshurst), James
(wid, 35, Ag Lab, Steyning), George (son, 22, Lab, Beeding), Elizabeth (Gdau,
6, Beeding),
1861 Findon,
James Carter (40, Carpenter, Pulborough), Ann (42, Alresford), Fanny (13,
scholar, Storrington), Rosa C. 910, scholar, Storrington), James W (5, Findon),
Louisa (3, Findon).
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KO09/49
Father of George Tate
2006/7:
The AF and IGI have no real information on this George in Sussex, but Surrey
IGI has the following. The age is correct and a line starting in Sussex can be
constructed, so this looks likely. An assumption had been made in the AF that
he was the son of William Tate (b 1696). There was no evidence of this and
William would probably not have been having children by 1745.
It looks as though he may have married Sarah Dale in Dorking and then
remained there for a while before moving to Findon where his later children
were born. A study of the Surrey records show this to be a reasonable
assumption.
Christened: 19/9/1744, Newdigate, Surrey. (IGI & PR transcript)
Parents: George & Mary (Peters) Tate
AF/IGI: b abt 1745 & d abt 1/2/1827 age 82
PR: George Tate the oldest bur 1/2/1827 age 82 (there being 3 generations of
George Tate alive in 1827).
PR for Washington, Storrington, Sullington, Petworth, Wiggin Holt, Westhampnet
checked 1735-50 for George - nil (except Petworth, these are not on IGI).
Diana Tate ch 19/3/1749 @ Petworth, parents Thomas & Sarah - is this
relevant???
Married: Sarah (from Findon children PR)
George Tate of Staines, bachelor, married Sarah Dale OTP spinster, 5/6/1770
Dorking, Surrey (PR transcript)
IGI Shows:
Sarah Dale ch Rusper, Sussex (South of Crawley), 25/5/1742,
Parents John & Mary, (no marriage for John, Surrey or Sussex)
brothers John (11/12/1734-31/12/1734) & Joseph (17/11/1732).
John Dale ch 9/4/1708, Rusper of John & Sarah
John Dale Married Sarah Illman, 27/11/1705, Rusper.
Issue: Margaret (20/4/1706), John (9/4/1708), Edward (4/2/1710), Wm
(6/12/1712), Sarah (14/11/1714).
Sarah Illman ch 19/12/1680, Rusper of John & Margaret.
John Illman m Margaret Hill, 17/6/1662, Rusper.
Too many John's and none at Rusper. Ditto Margaret.
Issue: Catherine (5/9/1662), William (3/4/1664), Elizabeth
(10/12/1665-9/2/1665), Marie (19/3/1666), Margaret (7/2/1668), John (8/1/1670),
Thomas (19/1/1672), Mary (14/3/1674), George (16/6/1678), Sarah (19/12/1680),
Frances (17/12/1682). (note old year system).
John Dale ch 12/7/1674, Rusper of Ralph & Walsingham.
Ralph Dale M. Walsingham Lee, 16/6/1656, Rusper. Also listed as at Warnham, but
source looks PR for Rusper, not Warnham.
Line finishes at Ralph on IGI.
Issue, Rusper: Willm (B26/1/1660, ch 10/2/60), Edward (26/4/1663), Thomas
(7/1/1665), Henrie (4/4/1669), Joseph (23/6/1672), John 12/7/1674.
Issue of George & Sarah (Dale) Tate, Dorking:
1/1. Thomas Tate, 25/8/1770, died 19/10/1770
1/2. Sarah Tate, 25/12/1771
1/3. Elizabeth Tate, 2/2/1774
Issue of George & Sarah Tate, ch Findon (IGI):
1/4. George Tate, ch 26/1/1776 PR.
1/5. Mary Tate, ch 23/11/1777.
1/6. Ann Tate, ch 12/3/1780.
PR: Ann Tate dau of George & Sarah bur 2/12/1818, age 38 Findon.
1/7. Diana Tate, ch 9/3/1783.
1/8. Sarah Tate (PR: d 5/10/1787 prob @ birth.
1/9. Jane Tate, ch 13/1/1788, d. 15/11/1800?, Findon.
AF:
The issue that follow agree with the IGI & PR data, with the exception of
son George's wife:
Married: Sarah (MFJ7-NL) Born: Abt 1742 Findon, Sussex, Eng
1/1. George Tate (2NCV-FD) Chr.: 26 Jan 1776 Findon, Sussex.
Married
according to AF, but not PR:
Mary Marner (MFJD-T5) Born: Abt 1773 Of Findon, Sussex,
Mary Tank (MFJ7-C2) Born: Abt 1782 Findon, Sussex, Eng
1/2. Mary Tate (MFJ7-QX) Chr.: 23 Nov
1777 Findon, Sussex,
1/3. Ann Tate (MFJ7-R4) Chr.: 12 Mar 1780 Findon, Sussex,
1/4. Diana Tate (MFJ7-S9) Chr.: 9 Mar 1783 Findon, Sussex,
Diana Tate M. James Slaughter, Broadwater, Sussex, 9/6/1808.
1/5. Sarah Tate (MFJ7-TG) Chr.: Abt 1785 Findon, Sussex,
1/6. Jane Tate (MFJ7-VM) Chr.: 13 Jan 1788 Findon, Sussex
KO09/51
IGI possibilities:
C: 7 Aug 1718 Father: Henry Neal, Arundel, Sussex, England
C: 24 Sep 1724 Parents: John & Mary Neal Fittleworth, Sussex,
C: 21 Sep 1736 Parents: Peter & Sarah Neale
Saint Peter The Great Or Subdeanery Of Chichester, Chichester, Sussex,
C: 7 Nov 1745 Parents: Willm & Mary Neal Fittleworth, Sussex, England
Married: 14 Jan 1772 Jane Garland, Petworth, Sussex,
KO09/52
C: 12 Jul 1744
Saint Peter The Great Or Subdeanery Of Chichester, Chichester, Sussex,
Parents: John & Elizabeth Garland
Issue of Thomas & Jane (Garland) Neal:
1/1. Thomas Neal, ch Pulborough 2/11/1772.
1/2. Mary Neal, ch Pulborough 22/6/1774. KO08/26
1/3. William Neal, ch Pulborough 23/9/1778.
KO09/53
The father of Kitty Goddard
PR/IGI Shows: Ch: 4/7/1761 at Upper Beeding (PR)
Parents: William & Sarah (Greenfield) Goddard
Married: Philidelphia ???. (b abt 1771-6)
IGI has no suitable marriages.
There were a family of Goddards in Swallowfield and Shinfield contemporary with
the Kings: Ann King, daughter of John of Swallowfield (see his entry), married
Thomas Tate, Kitty's probable grandson.
A Phillis Goddard lived with Richard Goddard (David's brother), a schoolmaster,
in 1841 and was a widow age 65. This was probably their mother, Philadelphia.
A Philadelphia Neal ch. Lindfield 21/1/1707 ex Thomas & Priscilla.
Issue (IGI ch Beeding):
1/1. Kitty Goddard, ch. 24/4/1791.
The IGI does not show Kitty, but has Philadelphia ch 24/4/1791, the same date as Kitty. The spelling Kitty is confirmed in the PR.
1/2. Mary Goddard, ch. 16/2/1794.
1/3. David Goddard, ch. 10/9/1796.
Tithe awards, Upper Beeding, 1843, show David Goddard as owner of House & Garden, with Joseph Goddard next door as tenant. It is likely that this is him, although a death date for father is not known.
1/4. John Goddard, ch. 20/7/1800. of David
& Phillidelphia.
1/5. Richard Goddard, ch. 4/7/1802.
Issue: none
known, but if Census 1861 correct, there must have been a Daughter at least.
Tithe awards, Upper Beeding, 1843, show Richard Goddard as a tenant on 3 plots
of land totalling about 2 acres, including one called "Follies
Croft". Beeding tithe map shows the old strip land ownership very clearly.
1841 Census: @ Beeding age 35, a schoolmaster with Phillis(delphia?) (65,
Independent widow) Harriet (45 Independent) and Ann (16).
The enumerator for Beeding in 1851 was Richard Goddard.
1851 Census: High St, Beeding:
Richard Goddard (48, Schoolmaster, Beeding), Ann (43, New Shoreham), + pupils.
1861 Census: Beeding High St:
Richard (58, Victualler, Beeding) Ann (50, New Shoreham) also Beth Ellin
Putto??? (niece 13, General servant, Southampton).
1/6. Jane Goddard, ch. 15/1/1804.
1/7. Jeering Goddard, ch. 2/1/1806.
1/8. Henry Goddard, ch. 10/12/1808.
Other Goddards 1851:
Harry Goddard (54, Ag Lab, Beeding), Hannah (58, Schoolmistress, Beanton).
Ann Goddard (54, Cordwainer's wife, Hellingly), Mary Ann (12, Scholar,
Beeding), Rich (10, scholar, Beeding), Eliza (8, scholar, Beeding).
Chas Goddard (42, Ag Lab, Beeding), Mary (44), Edw (13), Stephen (10), Fredk
(8), Elam (5), Jane (2), Mary (26, Lodger), Thos (20, Lodger), Selwin (18,
Lodger) All b Beeding.
Other Goddards in Beeding 1861: Charles (63 + family), Harry (64 + wife),
Joseph (64 + family).
1851 Census, 47 Meeting House Lane, Brighton:
John Goddard (66, Ag Lab, Beeding), Sarah (wf, 53, Stationer, Bham), Edward
Mitchell (nephew's son, 17, Potboy, Beston, Sussex).
Maybe ch 5/4/1795, Findon of John & Mary.
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Christened: 30/1/1706, West Tarring.
Parents: William & Elizabeth Tate
No George's in Surrey before this 1738. Suppose this George was born 1706 West
Tarring.
Benjamin Tate m. Martha Allcroft, Mitcham, 24/2/1742 IGI
George Tate married Mary Peters, 27/4/1738, Newdigate, Surrey, both OTP
(between Horsham & Dorking) (PR transcript).
Ch: 24/5/1712, Newdigate,
Parents: Joseph Peter.
Issue of George & Mary Tate, Newdigate:
1/1. Edward Tate, ch 16/2/1738 (PR)
1/2. Mary Tate, ch 18/7/1740. (PR)
Maybe married William Ede, 16/4/1760, Horley.
1/3. Elizabeth Tate, 5/3/1741 (PR)
1/4. George Tate ch 19/9/1744,
1/5. William Tate, ch 3/10/1746, (PR)
maybe M. Dorking 26/7/1771 Ann Penekeet
Also George ch 29/5/1746 of Benjamin.
Mary Peter Alternatives:
Ch 17/11/1720, Rusper, Sussex (Between Crawley & Horsham).
Parents: Jno & Eliz Peters
Ch: 26/12/1712, Cowfold, Sussex (5 m SSE of Horsham)
Parents: Edward & Mary.
Ch: 1/6/1705, Horsham, Sussex
Parents: William & Mary
Ch Capel Joseph Peter, 10/6/1680 of John.
Also:
Ch Capel, Joseph Peter, 2/2/1677-8 of Joseph, bur 12/5/1678.
(Joseph Peter Married Ann Roberts Capel, 18/5/1675)
Marriage: Joseph Peter & Elizabeth
Dandey, both OTP, Newdigate, 11/9/1704.
Elizabeth Dandy ch 26/9/1685, Newdigate, of James
Bur Elizabeth Peter 4/6/1719 Wife of Joseph, Newdigate
(Also Mary of James & Mary, Newdigate,
5/11/1682)
Issue of Joseph Peter, may all be the same family:
1/1. Elizabeth Peter, ch 21/8/1709, d. 15/11/1720, Newdigate. (PR).
1/2. Jane Peeter, 24/6/1711, Capel. (PR)
1/3. Mary Peter, ch 24/5/1712, Newdigate. (PR)
1/4. Joseph Peeter, ch 19/2/1713, Capel. (PR)
1/5. Sarah Peter, ch 18/6/1715, Newdigate. (PR)
1/6. Joseph Peter, ch 11/5/1717, Newdigate. (PR) Bur 24/9/1718
1/7. James Peeter, 24/4/1718, Capel. (PR)
John Peter
Buried: John Peter 16950220 John of Gages. (Capel)
Married: John Peter of Thorne & Marie
Spenser, 13/10/1671 Horsell (PR).
John Peter & Margery Serle 25/5/1669 Findon, Sussex,(IGI).
None of the marriages on the IGI look good.
Issue of John Peter @ Capel (PR):
1/1. Jane/Jenny Peter 16700523 John
1/2. James Peter 16711103 John of Gages
1/3. John Peter 16730425 John of Gages in Capel
1/4. William Peter 16751121 John of Gages
1/5. Joseph Peter 16800610 John
1/6. Mary Peter 16821030 John
1/7. Ralf Peter 16860622 John of Gages
1/8. Henry Peter 16880318 John of Gages
Bur: Joseph 24/9/1722, of Park Gate,
Newdigate.
Some earlier in Great Bookham.
Issue of William Peter @ Capel:
Marriage @ Newdigate: 10/6/1651, William Peter of Capel & Marie Pinion Marriage: Saint Nicholas, Guildford, JOHANE YOUNG 08/12/1666
William Peter 16540430 William
Mary Peter 16560727 William
John Peter 16580314 William
Jane/Jenny Peter 16620309 William
Child Peter 16670326 "A child of Wm dying as soon as born"
Ann Peter 16701104 William
William Peter 16770127 William of ??ook
Richard Peter 16830505 William
Bur Capel: Joan Peter 17081103 Wife of
William
Bur Capel: William Peter 17161222 William of the Brooke
Issue of Joseph @ Capel:
Elizabeth Peter 7/1676 Joseph of Brackspers
Joseph Peter 2/2/1678 Joseph Bur 12/5/1678
Robert Peter 2/1683 Joseph
John Peter 19/4/1685 Joseph
Sara Peter 22/8/1686 Joseph
John Peter 28/9/1694 Joseph
Ann Peter 26/6/1697 Joseph
Issue of John & Joane @ Newdigate:
Robert Peter 4/4/1669
John Peter 19/3/1671
Matthew Peter 28/1/1673
Will:
John Peter of Newdigate, 14/10/1678 (Commissary Court of Surrey)
Eldest Son Robert £10 )
Son John £10 ) when they are 21
Son Matthew £10 )
Wife Joane
Executors William Remsall of Rusper & Joseph Peter of Newdigate.
Issue of Robert @ Newdigate:
Mary Peter 15/2/1646
Joseph Peter 12/12/1647
Ruth Peter 29/4/1650
William Peter 12/10/1652
Bur Newdigate: Joan Peter 19/8/1659 Wife of Robert
Will:
Robert Peter of Newdigate, 27/2/1685/6 (Commissary Court of Surrey)
Dau Susanna £10
+ her children £10 when 21
Son John's children £20 equally when 21
Dau Jane use of £30 for life then to her children
Dau Mary & her children
Dau unreadable
Son Joseph goods that belong to me in the parlor?
Joseph's son
Joseph Executor
Buried: Robert Peter, 10/3/1686, Newdigate.
Archdeaconry Court of Surrey:
William Peter of Breakspear Capel, yeoman, aged & infirm 29/5/1714
Residue to son William - messuage Breakspear 130 acres in Capel
Sons Joseph, John & Richard
Buried: William Peter, Capel 9/6/1714
Archdeaconry Court of Surrey:
Joseph Peter of Newdigate, yeoman, 3/10/1728
Wife Mary
Dau Mary Weller, wife of Thomas Weller, late of Capel & her children
Richard, Thomas, Joseph, Peter.
Dau Sarah Wheeler of Capel, wife of William Wheeler
Sons James & Joseph
Buried: Joseph Peter 24/6/1730, Newdigate.
IGI: Thomas Weller & MARY PETER
Marriage: 09/5/1717 Wotton, Surrey,
William Wheeler & SARAH PETER Marriage: 28/10/1718 Wotton, Surrey,
Archdeaconry Court of Surrey:
Joseph Peter of Dorking, yeoman, 1/5/1730, Brother Richard.
KO10/103
Alternatives on IGI:
Jonne_ Garland B: 17 Jun 1660 Father: Peetar Garland
Petworth, Sussex, England
Jonn_ Johanas Garland C: 28 Aug 1668 Father: Ralph Garland Petworth, Sussex,
England
Joh Garland C: 27 Jan 1672 Father: Ralph Garland
Petworth, Sussex, England
John Garland C: 12 Aug 1691 Father: Peter Garland
Petworth, Sussex, England
John Garland C: 21 Dec 1694 Father: Abraham Garland
Petworth, Sussex, England
Married: 8 Jan 1727 Elizabeth Peckwell
Fittleworth, Sussex, (3 m SE Petworth)
KO10/104
IGI:
Ch: 30 Apr 1703, Petworth, Sussex.
Parent: Jasper Peckwell.
Issue of John & Elizabeth Garland, ch Petworth, IGI:
1/1. Mary Garland C: 4 Dec 1729
1/2. John Garland C: 14 Mar 1731
1/3. Elizabeth Garland C: 26 May 1734
1/4. Ann Garland C: 12 Sep 1736
It looks as though John & Elizabeth moved from Petworth to Chichester:
Issue of John & Elizabeth Garland, ch: Saint Peter The Great Or
Subdeanery Of Chichester, Chichester, Sussex, IGI:
1/5. Henry Garland C: 22 Jul 1739
1/6. Elizabeth Garland C: 20 Dec 1741
1/7. Jane Garland C: 12 Jul 1744, KO9/52.
KO10/109
The father of David Goddard.
IGI shows: Born: abt 1716 Steyning (ref IGI).
Possible Parents: Holland & Mary Goddard @ Petworth 26/5/1723.
Or 20/3/1725 Edburton of William & Mary - looks too young & IGI
suggests spouse Frances.
IGI also has William b abt 1716 Edburton.
Married 1st: Elizabeth Stevens 26/9/1741 @ Lancing.
Issue of William & Elizabeth (Stevens) Goddard (ch Steyning):
1/1. William Goddard, ch 30/9/1742.
1/2. James Goddard, ch 30/11/1745.
1/3. Mary Goddard, ch 19/7/1747.
Alternatively,
Married Ann Goddard, 29/3/1741, Edburton (next parish E of Beeding):
Ann b 8/9/1721, ch 27/9/1721 of William & Mary, Henfield (5N of Beeding)
The only marriage on the IGI was to Mary Betts, 9/4/1721, Saint Olave,
Southwark - looks geographically unlikely.
Issue of William & Ann Goddard
1/1. Mary Goddard, 14/6/1742, Edburton.
1/2. Sarah Goddard, 18/3/1744 or 18/3/1745, Edburton.
1/3. Richard Goddard, 8/3/1747, Beeding
1/4. William Goddard, 2/2/1748, Beeding.
1/5. Elizabeth Goddard, 12/6/1753, Upper Beeding.
1/6. Thomas Goddard, 2/11/1754, Upper Beeding.
PR/IGI shows:
William Goddard married 2nd: 23/11/1759 at Beeding.
(PR) He was a widower when he married Sarah, she was a spinster.
KO10/110
Several in IGI, but only one at Beeding.
Christened: 27/12/1735, Beeding (IGI)
Parents: William & Margaret.
Married: William Goddard, 23/11/1759, Beeding (his 2nd).
Issue of William & Sarah (Greenfield) Goddard (IGI ch Upper Beeding):
1/4. David Goddard, ch 4/7/1761. KO09/53
1/5. Ann Goddard, ch 3/9/1762.
1/6. Hannah Goddard, ch 9/9/1764.
1/7. James Goddard, ch 12/5/1765.
1/8. George Goddard, ch 22/3/1769.
1/9. Charles Goddard, ch 23/3/1769.
1/10. Frances Goddard, ch 7/8/1772.
A Frances married William Haybittle @ Shermanbury, 28/11/1793.
1/11. Jane Goddard, ch 23/3/1774.
1/12. Sarah Goddard, ch 24/6/1777.
Possibly an unrecorded son of William Goddard above:
Also seen in PR: Ann, wife of Richard Goddard bur Findon, 14/2/1824, aged 61.
Also will of Richard Goddard, labourer of Steyning, proved at Chichester,
11/2/1828 (STC 1/49 p515).
3 grandchildren, by late son John, Henry, Edward & Christian.
1 grandchild by late daughter Mary, Edward.
Sons George & William £20.
Son James, £12.
Dau Ann, wife of James ffeast of Midhurst.
Son Robert, executor, £50 in recognition of his care of Richard over years.
Robert Goddard was living in Steyning in 1840 in a cottage & garden.
Issue of William & Mary Goddard:
Ann, 8/9/1720, Henfield.
Richard, 1/2/1722, Edburton
William, 20/3/1725.
Sarah, 12/1/1725
Thomas, 4/2/1727
John, 8/4/1729, bur 17/11/1730.
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William Tate ch 2/2/1672, Midhurst of George, (prob PR)
William Tate ch 7/3/1673, Midhurst, of George & Rachell (prob PR)
Possible spouses Elizabeth (bth W Tarring) & Elinor (abt 1671 of Findon)
Issue of William & Elizabeth, West Tarring.
1/1. William Tate, 12/3/1696 (MFJ8-09)
AF has the
following descendancy for William, claimed to be the father of our George Tate,
b 1745: as of 5/1999, no record of this connection has been found. See under
George's entry for 2006 info.
Born: Abt 1696 Of Findon, Sussex,
PR: Bur 7/6/1768 age 72?
Will: Proved at Chichester, 9/9/1768. (V42, p19)
(William Tate snr, Gent of Findon)
Left:
Wife Margarett £12 and his best bed and 2 pairs of sheets and furniture for one
room.
Son William all lands etc.
Daughter Elizabeth, wife of Edward Hollands £50.
Daughter Jane, wife of Philip Parkham £50.
Daughter Margaret, wife of John (unreadable) £50.
Grand-daughters Margarett and Ann, daughters of John Andrew £20 each.
Also found, 2 wills of Tates of Tarring, James 1791 & Thomas, Blacksmith,
1790.
Married 1st: Margaret (nee Robinson, ref Peter East, who produce much of this
family) (MFJ8-1G) abt 1721 (IGI 12/10/1721, Findon or Steyning):
Born: Abt 1700 Findon, Sussex,
PR: Margaret T bur 17/1/1782, widow age 86.
2/1. William Tate (MFJD-ZT)
Inherited
father's land. Either he or his son was the Timber Merchant described in the
Findon Village Antiquities below.
Chr.: 19/7/1722 Findon, Sussex, PR
PR: he died 3/11/1800.
Married: Sarah Page (MFJF-00) Born: Abt 1733 Findon, Sussex,
Married: Findon 8/10/1754, PR: Mar By Banns, both OTP.
PR: Sarah, wife of William Tate bur 19/6/1772, Findon.
3/1. Anne Tate (MFJF-15)
Chr.: 12 Aug 1754 Findon, Sussex, No PR.
3/2. William Tate (MFJF-2B)
Chr.: 2 Dec
1755 Findon, Sussex, PR
IGI: Married Ann Seymour.
IGI: Married Elizabeth Last, abt 1780, Findon.
PR: Ann, wf of William T jnr bur 16/1/1778 Findon
PR: Ann, dau of William T jnr bur 13/12/1779 Findon
PR: William T bur 23/5/1811 aged 55, Findon.
Will: Proved Chichester 14/10/1811 (STC 1/47, p367)
Yeoman of Findon,<£2000.
Left: Wife Elizabeth 2 rooms of furniture. Remainder to
Executors
Brother George, Brother-in-law John Edwards and friend Charles
Coppard. To be distributed 1/4 to wife for life and 1/4 each to
children Lucy, William & John.
4/1. Lucy Tate,
IGI poss: b abt 1760, Findon, M abt 1794, d. 26/3/1803.
4/2. William Tate
4/3. John Tate
3/3. John Tate (MFJF-3H) Chr.: 3/7/1757 Findon, Sussex, PR
3/4. Sarah Tate (MFJF-4N) Chr.: 8 Jan 1762 Findon, Sussex, PR
3/5. George Tate (MFJF-5T) Chr.: 26 Dec 1763 Findon, Sussex, PR
B. 16/10/1763-23/9/1837
M. 3/10/1793 Frances Weller (8/6/1770-3/4/1855)
George Tate married Frances Weller @ Findon 24/9 or 3/10/1793.
Issue (IGI all ch Findon):
4/1. Frances (20/8/1794),
4/2. Catherine (30/10/1795),
4/3. Mary (23/2/1797),
4/4. Ann & Sarah (16/5/1799).
Descendant: Peter East.
4/1. Edward Tate, (18/8/1801-19/9/1861) From Karen email 10/03.
M. Priscilla Platts (29/05/1803-4/4/1892)
24/12/1826 Brighton (IGI)
4/1. Ellen Tate, 1822, M Alfred Morrell (French)
E Grinstead 21/5/1850 (IGI & Email).
6/1. William Morell.
6/2. George Morell.
6/3. Frederick Morell, M Edith Mary Fairer, Westmoreland
Possibly a wine merchant, and spent time in France.
7/1. Ellen Morell (possible born Bermuda or Jamaica)
M. Maurice Windows of Newcastle-on-Tyne
8/1. Yvonne Windows, M Mr Beal
3/6. Edward Tate (MFJF-61) Chr.: 3 May 1765 Findon, Sussex,
3/7. Elizabeth Tate (MFJF-76) Chr.: 9 Jan 1767 Findon, Sussex,
3/8. Robert Tate (MFJF-8C) Chr.: 6 Jan 1769 Findon, Sussex,
PR: Died 11/1/69, bur 22>nd
3/9. Catherine Tate (MFJF-9J)
Chr.: 31 Oct
1771 Findon, Sussex,
PR: Catherine T m John Coppard May 1792, note father's executor.
2/2. Elizabeth Tate (MFJ8-3S) Chr.: 1/12/1724 Findon, Sussex.
Married: Edward
Hollands. PR: M. Edward Holland 4/12/1753, both OTP.
3/1. Edward Holland, ch 16/12/1754, Findon. (IGI)
3/2. Elizabeth Holland, ch 23/4/1758, Lancing. (IGI)
2/3. Jane Tate (MFJ8-40) Chr.: 17 May 1728 Findon, Sussex,
Married: Philip
Parkham, IGI: 31/3/1757 Findon.
3/1. ?? Elizabeth Perkham, ch 9/9/1766, Findon. (IGI)
2/4. Ann Tate (MFJ8-55) Chr.: 27 Oct 1729 Findon, Sussex,
PR: Ann dau of William & Margaret Bur 25/9/1743
2/5. Margaret Tate (MFJ8-6B) Chr.: 1732 Findon, Sussex,
Married: John
???
PR Findon: Margaret m. John Chambers 13/3/1756, both OTP.
IGI nil issue.
2/6. Mary Tate (MFJ8-7H) Chr.: 17 Apr 1734 Findon, Sussex.
1/2. Jane Tate, 9/11/1699
1/3. Edward Tate, 10/1/1701
1/4. John Tate 11/8/1704
John Tate ch.
11/8/1704 West Tarring, bur 10/2/77 Sompting
Also listed as ch 10/2/1704.
Parents: William & Elizabeth.
Married Elizabeth Holliday, 6/5/1731, Sompting.
Issue of John & Elizabeth at Sompting, Sussex (between Shoreham &
Beeding/Findon):
2/1. George John Tate
ch Sampting,
12/11/1730 of John & Elizabeth
George John Tate married Ann Slater Sampting, 12/5/1764
2/2. John Tate,
ch 12/3/1731
2/3. Thomas Tate, ch 29/8/1733, d. 5/7/1763
Thomas Tate m
Sarah Elliot 2/5/1760, Sompting.
3/1. Jane Tate, ch 24/3/1761,
married George Ederidge, Sompting, 24/6/1788.
2/4. Edward
Tate, ch 19/5/1735, died 22/12/1735
2/5. Elizabeth Tate ch 1/9/1737
Married Thomas
Howard, 9/6/1768, Sompting.
Issue, Climping:
3/1. William Howard, 8/9/1771.
3/2. Thos Hayward 14/2/1773.
3/3. Elizabeth Heward, ch 27/11/1774, d. 12/5/1779.
3/4. Richard Heward 14/8/1776, d. 20/5/1779
3/5. Richard Heward ch 25/7/1779
3/6. Jane Heward, 8/8/1784
2/6. George Tate ch 29/10/1740
on IGI this
George married Ann Holter.
George Tate married Ann Holter 14 May 1770, Sompting,
Issue George & Ann, Sompting:
3/1. Edward Tate, 20/6/1771
3/2. Samuel Tate, 1772.
3/3. George Tate ch 16 Oct 1774 of George & Ann, Sompting.
2/7. Jane Tate,
ch 7/11/1745, died 23/6/1748.
2/8. Charity Tate, ch 26/4/1747, bur 26/5/1747
Both George and George John are variously given in the IGI as the issue of William & Elizabeth (Holliday) Tate, and one source differentiates between them as George John marrying Ann Slater. The sources are from submitters to the LDS, not apparently from Parish Records.
1/5. George Tate 30/1/1706
1/6. Thomas 13/2/1709 married about 1739, Mary.
Issue, West
Tarring
2/1. Thomas Tate, 24/8/1740 of Thomas & Mary
2/2. Richard Tate, 10/12/1742, Steyning.
Married Sarah
Cole, 10/11/1773, Climping.
3/1. Sarah Tate, ch 26/11/1774, Climping of Richard & Sarah.
3/2. Richard Tate,
ch 1/8/1777,
Climping, of Richard & Elizabeth.
Married Mary Finey, 9/8/1778, Climping.
1841 Census, Tanant St, Arundle:
Richard Tate (64, Painter, Y), Thomas (17, painter, Y).
2/3. Jane Tate,
27/11/1744
2/4. Mary Tate, 21/5/1745
2/5. Ann Tate, 10/6/1747
2/6. Elizabeth Tate, 26/12/1749
Poss Elizabeth 28/12/1769 W Tarring of Elizabeth Tate.
2/7. Charles
Tate, 2/3/1752, Poss married Mary.
2/8. James Tate, 13/7/1756
An extract from the Findon Village Antiquities, referring to this part of
the Tate family follows:
I am told that a timber-merchant's business flourished on the southern
slope of the Downs at Nepcote for two hundred years between 1775 and 1976 in
spite of suffering from two horrendous fires. I have discovered that this
timber-yard belonged successively, and for an equal period of time, to two
local families, the well-known Tates and the Ockendens.
By 1785, William Tate, although primarily a timber merchant, farmed 99 acres
of Findon agricultural land. He held seventeen acres by copyhold from Findon
Manor and this was at Nepcote Green. In all he leased 82 acres from four other
different Findon landowners. It could be said that Tate farmed on a
comparatively large scale. In those days most tradesmen had agricultural
interests, some of them considerable, so it is difficult to calculate which
activity was the main source of Tate's wealth, the timber business or that of
farming.
I found William Tate to be mentioned again in the Findon Court Book of 1795.
Tate the timber merchant and farmer had been given the right to vote in county
elections by 1798, so it appears he had climbed the ladder of success. He was
also churchwarden at St. John the Baptist Church in the days when the Reverend
William Payne was the vicar.
The Tate family can next be discovered in the 1841 census for Findon when a
wheelwright by the name of George Tate is mentioned living in Nepcote with his
wife Mary (née Tank). George was born in the village in January 1776 and died
there at the age of seventy on 21st June 1846.
It is interesting to record here a photograph of the couple's daughter,
Jane, who was born in 1803. She married a Shipley man, John Laker, in 1834 and
moved to the Shipley/West Grinstead area where their son, Lashbrook was born in
1835. The family then moved to Croydon in 1835/6 before emigrating to the
U.S.A. around in 1855. Jane died in 1881 in Richmond, Indiana at the age of 78
years. Lashbrook died in St. Charles, Idaho in 1901.
It was presumably Jane Tate's brother, also called George (born in 1802),
who appears in the 1851 census with an address at the Nepcote site. He was 49
years old at that date and described as a "master wheelwright" and he
employed one man. His wife was Frances and he had two unmarried sons, George,
aged 24, and Henry aged 18, both also recorded as "wheelwright".
KO11/207
(IGI only one:)
Born: 16 Nov 1658 Petworth, Sussex, Father: Jasp Peckwell
Issue (IGI):
1/1. Jasper Peckwell C: 6 Nov 1692
1/2. Elizabeth Peckwell, ch 30/4/1703, Petworth. KO10/104
Jasper Peckwell M Jane James, 10/2/1627
Issue of JasperJ Peckwell, Petworth:
Jasper Peckwell ch 20/10/1628.
Ann Peckwell, 12/2/1632
Eliz Peckwell, 22/3/1634
Alice Peckwell, 30/7/1637.
Issue of Jasp(er) Peckwell, Petworth:
Elinor Peckwell, 8/12/1644.
Joan Peckwell, 9/12/1646
John Peckwell, 26/9/1652
Jane Peckwell, 21/9/1655
Jasper Peckwell, 16/11/1658.
KO11/217
No issue or marriage for Holland on IGI.
Issue of Holland Goddard, Petworth:
(1-4 look like PR film)
1/1. John Goddard, 9/1713
1/2. Ann Goddard, 1/1717.
1/3. Katherine Goddard, 18/11/1719
1/4. Sam Goddard, 11/6/1721.
1/5. William Goddard, of Holland & Mary.
(a) abt 1716
(IGI)
(b) of Holland & Mary 26/5/1723.
1/6. Ann Goddard, ch 29/12/1724, death
28/5/1725 of Holland & Mary.
KO11/219
Ch: 30/10/1710, West Chiltington, Sussex
Parent: Philadelphia Greenfield.
Several others in IGI, but the mother's name makes this a likely candidate. No
trace of a suitable Margaret Pocock in IGI
Married: Margaret Pocock, 4/11/1729, Beeding. (IGI)
Issue (IGI ch Beeding):
1/1. Mary Greenfield (6/1/1730),
1/2. Elizabeth Greenfield (28/9/1733),
1/3. John Greenfield (2/3/1734),
1/4. Sarah Greenfield (27/12/1735), KO10/110
1/5. William Greenfield (6/2/1737).
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KO12/438
Ch: 14/9/1677, West Chiltington (IGI)
Father: John Greenfield.
IGI has no suitable marriages in England, nearest was:
Philidelphia G. M. Thomas Sutton 1/1/1722, West Ch'ton.
Issue (IGI ch @ W. Chiltington):
1/1. Anne Greenfield,(25/10/1697), D 6/4/1711
1/2. William Greenfield (30/10/1710), KO11/219
1/3. George Greenfield, (3/3/1714),
1/4. Betty Greenfield, (26/7/1719)
Several gaps, poss. incomplete list or two Philidelphias.
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KO13/875
Ch: (IGI) 20/12/1632, West Chiltington.
Parents: Maurice Greenfield.
No obvious line from here, but a number of IGI entries include Maurice
Greenfield in the Sussex area.
Issue (IGI ch W. Chiltington):
1/1. Mary Greenfield (22/3/1662),
1/2. Mary Greenfield (6/6/1669),
1/3. Thomas Greenfield (5/4/1675),
1/4. Mary Greenfield (6/8/1675),
1/5. Philadelphia Greenfield (14/9/1677), KO12/438
1/6. John Greenfield (7/10/1677).
Poss incomplete or several wives &/or John's.
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The King family of Berkshire is described below. John King (1804-1893) is
the only one about whom much is known. They seemed to have been humble
agricultural workers, without many assets and so have left no property or will
trails. An ancestry has been pieced together from the IGI, cross checked with
the Parish Records (originals or transcripts). As with any lineage of this
sort, it has elements of guesswork in it - not good for a court of law! At Mary
2007, a further study of the Reading area Parish records might clarify some if
the earlier families.
A number of this line were christened at Reading St Mary (RSM); in
interesting feature of the burial records in the 18thC was the number of
individuals (not connected with us!) who were hanged. Several a year.
KO07/15
The father of Ann King. PR/IGI/Census shows:
Born: abt 1804-5 (Cen51), ch 29/1/1804 (PR/IGI) @ Swallowfield.
Parents (IGI): William & Jane
DeathDC: John King: age 89 of Swallowfield, 25/1/1893. (No Will)
John King was variously a small farmer, dealer and publican in Riseley Green, a
small village South of Swallowfield, a larger village itself about 5-10 miles
South of Reading in Berkshire.
1817: Enclosure map shows John King in same position as later in Tithe Map. He
is referred to as "owner of an old inclosure" adjoining a small plot
of land available for the poor to collect fuel.
1842 Swallowfield (Berks) Tithe:
John King shown as tenant of Sir Henry Russell of 2 plots:
103: cottage and garden (0-1-2) and
105: "King's Pightle", arable field (1-2-11). Pightle means a small
field or enclosure.
Also noted was Thomas Goddard renting 68
acres. References to Goddards is fairly common in the records (parish and
Tithe) for this and neighbouring parishes - was there any connection between
these Goddards and those in Sussex. All these Goddards seem to be locally born.
John's daughter Ann, married to Thomas Tate whose mother was Agnes Goddard.
This could be an explanation of how two people of humble backgrounds from
geographically well separated areas met before the days of rail travel.
1842 Swallowfield (Wilts) Tithe:
Sarah King (0-1-2)
Swallowfield at this time had some land which was part of Wiltshire, although
the main part of that county is many miles away: this anomaly, probably
originating since Anglo-Saxon times, was removed in the mid 9thC.
John King's plots are just west of the Blackwater River on a minor road
south-east of Riseley, now at the junction of a road called School lane and a
lane heading west. In 10/2001, the "fuel plot" is a horse paddock,
surrounded by trees, still with the atmosphere it must have had when it was a
remote wooded copse. There are small houses along the lane, but they appear
relatively recent, but one is probably on the site of John's.
1827-29 Labourer, At Riseley Common.
1831-34 Publican,
1838-43 Carrier,
1841 Census:
Ann K (20, Ag Lab.), Emma (12), Mary (10), Lydia (8), Sarah (6), Ann (3), Ellen
(10mths).
1846 Labourer (Swallowfield),
1848 Carrier,
1851 Census:
John K (Dealer 46), Ann (32), Lydia (17), Ellen (10), Betsy (7), John (2),
Blanche (3mths). All born Swallowfield.
1851 All Shinfield & Swallowfield checked.
1853 Shopkeeper,
1856 Farmer,
1858-62 Dealer.
1859: daughter's marriage, a farmer.
1861 Census: not found.
1871 Census, Riseley Common (all b Swallowfield ex Ann):
John King (66, Farmer 16 acres), Ann (52), John (22) Charles (17), Harry (15),
Ada (12, scholar), Kate (9, scholar)
1881 Census, Risley Rd, Swallowfield:
John King (76, Farmer 10 acres, Sw.), Ann (64, Swallowfield), Kate (dau, 19,
Swallowfield).
1891 Census, Risely Common, Swallowfield:
John King (86, Farmer), Ann (74), Harry (son, 36, Butler), Eliza (d-in-law, 32,
Hastings), Harry Jones (g-son, 11, scholar, Hagley Heath Hants)
1901 Census, Risley Common: Ann King (Hd, Wid 84, farmer, Shinfield)
Married (1st): Rebecca Hunt, Swallowfield, 3/9/1825. He: bachelor OTP, she a
spinster OTP, by banns. Witnessed by Henry Leadbetter (a cooper, of a local
long standing family), Sophie King, Miriam +1 Clark.
DiedPR: Rebecca King, age 27 of Swallowfield, 19/12/1834.
Issue of John & Rebecca (Hunt) King:
1/1. William King, ch Swallowfield, 10/6/1827.
1861 not found.
1/2. Emma King, ch Swallowfield, 17/5/1829.
1/3. Mary King, ch Swallowfield, 25/9/1831.
From Duncan
Grover[i]
March 2003 & Feb 04.
…..I am descended from Mary King, John's daughter by his first wife, Rebecca
Hunt. I believe this makes me a 4th half cousin to your wife! Mary married
William Lee in Brighton on 28 April 1862 (interesting, another daughter
marrying in Brighton: one witness at their wedding was Thomas Tate). Following
their marriage, they emigrated to Indiana, Mary giving birth to their eldest
son there, William Richard Lee, b 1863. They then returned to England, perhaps
because of the US Civil War, and settled in William's home village, Amberley in
Sussex.
Their daughter, Ellen, was my great grandmother and was William and Mary's
eighth known child born on 1 May 1873 in Amberley. She married my great
grandfather, William John Grover, the railway stationmaster at Amberley, on 7
July 1891 in Amberley Church.
Ellen and William had 5 children who reached adulthood, and the fourth, Albert
Edward Grover, was my grandfather, born on 27 July 1906 in Brighton. Albert, a
printer, married my grandmother, Beatrice Ena Loveland, on 12 May 1934 in
Brighton. They had 2 sons, and the eldest, my father, Peter Albert Derek Grover
was born on 17 September 1939. He married my mother, Margaret Rose Theaker on
21 December 1963 in Brighton. I am their eldest child, Duncan Peter Grover,
born on 2 July 1967 in Brighton.
1/4. Lydia King, ch Swallowfield, 8/9/1833.
1/5. Elizabeth King, ch Swallowfield, 19/12/1834.
Died: Elizabeth King: age 13 mths Of Riseley Common 24/1/1836.
1/6. Sarah King, ch Swallowfield, 19/12/1834
Rebecca died at the birth of twins, Elizabeth & Sarah.
Married (2nd): Ann Watkins 28/10/1835 @ St Mary, Reading. Both OTP by banns
(both illiterate), witnesses Isaac Warknall?? & Mary Ann Caster.
KO07/16
The mother of Ann King.
Census shows: Born: abt 1817-19 (Cen41,51) @ Swallowfield (IGI nil).
ChPR 31/1/1819, Shinfield
Parents: George & Sarah Watkins.
Burial: Ann King, age 87 of Swallowfield, 11/10/1904. (No Will)
Married: John King 26/10/1835 St Mary, Reading.
Issue of John & Ann (Watkins) King, ch Swallowfield:
All resident at Riseley Common, ref PR.
1/7. Ann King, 18/2/1838.
1/8. Ellen King, 5/8/1840.
1/9. Betsy King, 27/7/1843.
1/10. John King, 19/12/1845 res Swallowfield.
Died: John King: age 13 mths of Swallowfield, 21/1/1847. PR.
1/11. John George King, 1/10/1848.
1881 Census, Risley,
Swallowfield.
George John King (31, Farm Lab, Sw), Rosetta, 26, Fazely Heath), George John
(1, Sw).
1891 Census, The Barracks, Swallowfield:
John King (41, Farm Lab), Rosetta (35, Hagley Heath, Hants), George (11,
Scholar), Florence (9, scholar), Harry (7, scholar), Percy (3), Terr...? dau
(1)
1901 Census, Riseley Common (all b Swallowfield):
John King (52, General Lab), Rosetta (46, Hagley Heath, Hants), George (21,
Shopman), Harry (18, Garden lab), Percy (14, Garden Lab), Lottie (12), Bertie
(10), Dolly (7), Minifred (5), Nellie (3)
2/1. George John King, abt 1880, Swallowfield
2/2. Florence King, abt 1882, Swallowfield
2/3. Harry King, abt 1884, Swallowfield.
2/4. Percy King, abt 1887, Swallowfield.
2/5. Lottie King, abt 1889, Swallowfield.
2/6. Albert King, abt 1891, Swallowfield
2/7. Dolly King, abt 1894, swallowfield.
2/8. Minifred King, abt 1896, Swallowfield.
2/9. Nellie King, abt 1898, Swallowfield.
1/12. Blanche King, 8/1/1851.
Is this Blanche the one in the Dolman/Tate family bible???
1/13. Charles King, 19/12/1853.
1/14. Harry King, 17/1/1856.
1891 Census,
Risely Common, Swallowfield:
John King (86, Farmer), Ann (74), Harry (son, 36, Butler), Eliza (d-in-law, 32,
Hastings), Harry Jones (g-son, 11, scholar, Hagley Heath Hants).
1901 not found.
1/15. Ada King, 17/1/1858.
1/16. Kate King, 21/2/1862.
James & Mary Ann King A Gardner in Swallowfield
Issue: Eliza 20/12/1839, James William 27/6/1841
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KO08/29
The father of John King
PR shows: Born: ch 3/8/1766 @ Swallowfield.
Parents: William & Elizabeth (Cook) King
Death: William: age 64 of Riseley Common, 2/12/1831
Tombstone: Swallowfield Ch, "in memory of William King of Swallowfield
died 27 November 1831, aged 68" - a substantial grave stone.
Death: Jane King, bur Riseley Common, 2/3/1829 aged 59
Married: Jane (IGI nil Berks or Surrey for marriage).
Issue of William & Jane King, all ch Swallowfield (PR):
1/1. Lucy King, ch. 16/1/1791.
Bur: Lucy, age 20 of Swallowfield, 20/5/1811.
1/2. William King, ch. 30/12/1792.
1/3. Ann King, ch. 19/10/1794.
1/4. Lydia King, ch. 25/5/1799.
Bur: Lydia, age 25 of Swallowfield, 2/12/1825.
1/5. Miriam King, ch. 23/8/1801.
1/6. John King, ch. 29/1/1804.
1/7. Flora King, ch. 24/8/1806.
1/8. + Sophia ?
Marriages: Sophia King m. George Hunt Swallowfield 12/11/1827 (PR) (Witnesses
at John & Rebecca's marriage 1825 - Sophie)
KO08/31
ChPR 15/2/1784, Wokingham.
Parents: Thomas & Ann Watkins
1816-21: Labourer @ Swallowfield Mills(?)
1851 All Shinfield & Swallowfield checked.
1851 Census, Spencer's Wood, Swallowfield:
George Watkins (66, Ag Lab, Stratfield Say, Hants), Sarah (65, Shinfield),
Esther (19, Swallowfield).
1861 Census, Swallowfield:
George Watkins (Hd, 84, Labourer, Stratfield Hants), Esther (dau, 30,
Swallowfield), Alfred (son, 3, Swallowfield; must be G/son). This must be the
one in spite of the age.
MarriedPR: Sarah Rapley, 6/2/1802, Shinfield, by Banns OTP B&S.
KO08/32
ChPR: 17/10/1784, Shinfield.
Parents: John & Mary Rapley
Died: between 1851 & 61.
Issue of George & Sarah (Rapley) Watkins (PR):
1/1. Eliza Watkins ch: Shinfield, 12/12/1804.
PR: Eliza
Watkins m Daniel David 18/2/1828.
1841 Census, Friar St, Reading St Lawrence:
Daniel David (30, Publican, Y), Eliza (35, Y), Charles (12, Y).
1851 Census, 144 Friar St, Reading St Lawrence:
Daniel David (46, Brewer's Servant, Wilts Levaltow??), Eliza (47, Shinfield) +
visitor & 2 lodgers.
1861 Census, 144 Friar St:
Daniel David (61, Brewer's Lab, Swallowfield), Eliza 60, Shinfield)
Reference to Wilts in 1851 probably because a part of Berks was formerly a peculiar
(remote part) of Wiltshire.
1/2. Jane Elizabeth ch: Swallowfield,
9/6/1811.
1/3. Mary Watkins ch: Swallowfield, 9/6/1811.
1/4. Harriet Watkins ch: Shinfield 14/1/1816,
bur Shinfield 22/3/1819 age 3 of Sw.
1/5. Anne Watkins ch: Shinfield
31/1/1819. KO07/16
1/6. Caroline Watkins ch: Shinfield 28/10/1821.
1/7. George Watkins, b 30/10/1825, Swallowfield
Married:
Elizabeth Welsh of Shinfield, 1848
1851 Census, Three Mile Cross, Shinfield East:
George Watkins (25, Farm Lab, Swallowfield), Elizabeth (24, Shinfield), Sarah
(2, Shinfield), Jane (1 mth, Shinfield).
1870: farm labourer of Swallowfield West.
1881: Elizabeth W. widow.
2/1. Ernest Watkins, b Swallowfield. 27/8/1870 (youngest)
Married Amy
Jane Bowen. Moved to Willesden.
1901: Hiley Rd, Willesden
1904: builder's lab.
3/1. Ernest George Watkins (27/11/1904, W'den-1/6/1993)
Married Urith
Nelly Anger(1909-), 1932 Willesden.
4/1. Walter Roger Watkins, b 1937,
m Patricia Hippel
1960
5/1. Ian Watkins[ii]
who supplied this line 11/9/2003,
Born
Bexleyheath. 1990 married, moved to Welwyn GC.
4 sons.
1/8. Esther Watkins, born abt 1832.
Seems a long breeding period, but no other suitable candidates.
Burials @ Shinfield:
Hunt Jane 18130617 age 49 of Shinfield
Howard Sarah 18131116 age 69 of Shinfield
Howard William 18250918 age 77 of Shinfield
1851 Census, Shinfield East:
William Watkins (21, Carpenter, Surrey Send). B in law to William Pickner.
1851 Census, Spencer's Wood, Shinfield:
Sarah Rapley (75, wid, Parish Relief, Bucks) with lodger.
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KO09/57
The father of William King PR shows:
Born: ch 15/1/1730 @ Swallowfield.
Parents: Thomas & Elizabeth
PR: Swallowfield has William King bur 24/7/1789, could be him.
Married: Elizabeth Cook 20/10/1763 @ Shinfield (PR).
William King of Swallowfield and Elizabeth Cooke OTP. By Lic Wit William Cook,
both signed. Printed transcript has both of Swallowfield.
KO09/58
Christened: 22/4/1744 Swallowfield (PR)
Parents: Pooter (Peter) & Sarah Cook.
Most likely due age at marriage and at last child's birth.
(or 25/3/1739 Arborfield ex William & Ann.)
IGI has no more for Peter Cook Berks.
Issue @ Swallowfield, PR:
1/1. Sarah King, ch. 29/3/1764.
1/2. William King, ch. 3/8/1766.
1/3. Ann King, ch 30/4/1769.
Bur: 18/4/1770,
1/4. Elizabeth King, ch. 30/1/1771.
1/5. Mary King, ch 11/11/1773.
Bur: perhaps, 25/2/1795??.
1/6. John King, ch 26/6/1777.
Bur: 28/10/1777,
1/7. Florence King, ch 23/8/1778.
1/8. Rachel King, ch 3/12/1780.
Bur: 15/3/1781,
1/9. George King, ch 17/3/1781.
1/10. Charles King, ch 29/1/1786.
KO09/61
Ch: 1/1/1745, Reading St Mary,
Parents: Base born son of Thomas Whatkins & Mary Kessel
Married (PR): Ann May, 13/1/1770, Wokingham, by Banns, OTP B&S.
KO09/62
Ch 19/5/1752, Wokingham (PR)
Parents: Anthony & Ann (Deane) May
No deaths 1770-1787
Issue:
Issue of Thomas & Ann Watkins, Wokingham (all PR).
1/1. Thos. Watkins C: 13 Jan 1771
1/2. Thomas Watkins C: 25 Oct 1772
1/3. James Watkins C: 15 Jan 1775
1/4. William Whatkins C: 30 Mar 1777 - handwriting changes in PR
1/5. Moses Watkins C: 18 Apr 1779
1/6. Joseph Watkins C: 14 Oct 1781
1/7. George Watkins, ch 15/2/1784, Wokingham KO08/31
Also:
John Watkins m Frances Howard, 7/10/1816, Shinfield, OTP, B&S.
Bur: Frances Watkins 1/12/1819 age 27 of Shinfield
Issue of John & Frances Watkins at Shinfield:
Watkins Frances Howard 18191201 (John Publican of)
Issue of John & Elizabeth Watkins at Shinfield:
Watkins James John 18210428 (John Publican of Shinfield)
Bur: John Watkins 15/12/1820 age 32 of Shinfield
Admon: John Watkins wife Elizabeth of Shinfield.
Married: ELIZABETH FLETCHER 07 FEB 1820 Saint Giles, Reading,
The only IGI candidate was:
Born, 09 JUL 1785 & Ch: 29 SEP 1786 Saint Mary, Reading
Parents John & Elizabeth.
KO09/63
ChPR: Shinfield 28/12/1757.
Or:
Ch: 13/10/1754
Parents: John & Sarah Rapley
John & Sarah seem to have had 2 sons called John, but the later one seems
too young if the first two children of John & Mary are of the same couple.
Only Berks marriage of John & Mary:
Sulhampstead Bannister, John married Mary Brooker, 8/11/1768 (PR chkd both
OTP).
Issue of John & Mary Rapley (PR Shinfield):
1/1. William Rapley of Jno & Mary 24/6/1770.
1/2. Jane Rapley of Jno & Mary 2/8/1773.
1/3. Edward Rapley, ch: 4/2/1776. of John & Mary
Possible from
Shinfield PR:
Edward Rapley m Sarah Appleby, 26/1/1804, Shinfield
2/1. Charles Rapley 18050310 Edward Sarah
2/2. Frances Rapley 18071227 Edward Sarah
2/3. George Rapley 18110317 Edward Sarah
1851 Census,
Shinfield East:
George Rapley (40, Sawyer, Sh'd), Ann (43, Shinfield).
1/4. Mary Rapley, ch: 14/3/1779.
1/5. William Rapley ch: 29/8/1781.
William Rapley,
wid, m Sarah Cox, 24/12/1804, Shinfield
Issue of William & Sarah Rapley, (PR Shinfield):
2/1. Elizabeth Rapley, ch 4/9/1803 Bur Shinfield, 7/4/1805 age 1
2/2. Harriet Rapley, 21/4/1806
2/3. Mary Ann Rapley, 29/11/1807.
PR Mary Rapley bur 29/12/1805.
2/4. John
Rapley, 25/10/1809.
2/5. James Rapley, 31/5/1812.
1851 Census,
Shinfield (all b Shinfield):
James Rapley (37, Ag Lab), Jane (40), Jane (12, scholar), Ann (10, scholar),
John Freeman (7)
1/6. Sarah Rapley Ch (PR):
17/10/1784, Shinfield. KO08/32
1851 Census, Shinfield:
John Rapley (71, Ag Lab, Fulhampsted Bennet??), Ann (74, Highworth, Wilts)
1851 Census, Shinfield East, b Shinfield:
William Rapley (41, Farm Lab) Mary (38, Beach Hill), Elizabeth (21), James
(10), Sarah (8), George (5), Henry (3).
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KO10/113
PR shows: Born: ch 19/4/1702 @ Swallowfield.
Parents: William & Mary King
Married: Elizabeth Knight 14/3/1723 @ St Lawrence, Reading.
Thomas of St Lawrence, Elizabeth of St Marie
Prob: ch 18/10/1704,
Parents: John & Temperance @ Reading St Mary (PR, John a labourer)
Buried: 2/1/1733, Swallowfield.
PR:
Elizabeth Knight of John a strainger bur 5/1/1705, St Mary.
Elizabeth & daughter Elizabeth buried Swallowfield 2/1/1733.
Elizabeth King bur Swallowfield 4/2/1763.
or: 6/6/93 ex Richard & Laetitia @ Burghill.
Issue of Thomas & Elizabeth King (Swallowfield):
1/1. John King (11/8/1726), PR
1/2. Thomas King (14/8/1728), PR
1/3. William King (3/8/1730). PR KO09/57.
1/4. Elizabeth King (1732-33)
KO10/115
Christened: 30/12/1713, St Mary, Reading.
Parents: John & Ann (Morgan) Cook (Coock in PR transcript)
Married: Sarah ?? (No trace of marriage on Berks IGI).
Sarah Cook, wife of Peter Cook buried Swallowfield 20/5/1754.
Peter Cook Bur 22/10/1752: was this him?
Issue (ch Swallowfield IGI - various spellings of Cook & Peter = Pooter):
1/1. Elizabeth Cook (16/10/1737),
1/2. William Cook (1/1/1739),
1/3. Pootor Cook (31/8/1740) son of "Pooter" & Sarah, PR,
PR Bur "Pooter" Cook, 20/6/1741.
1/4. Sarah Cook (22/3/1743) dau of Pooter & Sarah, PR.
1/5. Mary Cook (22/4/1744), PR
PR Bur Mary Cook, 6/5/1744.
1/6. Elizabeth Cook (22/4/1744). KO09/58
1/7. Mary Cook (18/8/1747), IGI.
1/8. Peter Cook (11/8/1751) IGI.
Swallowfield Burials only 1739-54.
or Ch: 27/5/1706, ex William & Jane, St Giles, Reading.
Siblings: Edward (25/12/1702) & Peter (27/5/1706).
William m. 20/4/1700 St Giles, Reading, Jane Harrison ch: 17/7/1684 ex
James & Ann.
KO10/121
KO10/122
Mary Kessel ch RSM 22/11/1720 of Peter & Mary
Ann base born dau of John Round & Mary Kessell, 7/2/1739-40
A Mary Kessel bur Reading St M, 27/2/1759
Issue:
1/1. Thomas Watkins,
ch 1/1/1745, St Mary, Reading (PR, base born). KO09/61
Thomas Watkins M. Frances Harrison RSM
12/9/1776
TW bur RSM 14/4/1768 & 17/9/1775
KO10/123
ChPR 16/6/1725, Wokingham.
Parents: Anthony & Elizabeth May
Married: Ann Deane, 6/5/1750, Wokingham, both OTP
KO10/124
ChPR 15/9/1725, Wokingham.
Parents: John & Ann Deane.
Married: Anthony May
Issue of Anthony & Ann May, Wokingham (PR):
1/1. Ann May ch 19/5/1752. KO09/62
1/2. Anthony May Ch: 26/12/1754 (none seen on PR between these 2)
1/3. Robert May Ch: 24/10/1760
Robert & Benjamin May both breeding Wokingham 1750's
KO10/125
John Rapley ch 20/2/1726, Reading St Giles, (PR)
Parents: Edward & Elizabeth (Willis) Rapley.
Reading St G has extensive notes - read one day!
John Rapley married Sarah Wray 12/10/1746, Swallowfield (PR - no residence
given, thus prob of Swallowfield). There are numerous marriages between people
of Shinfield, Reading and other parishes.
No sign of suitable Sarah Wray on IGI.
Issue of John & Sarah Rapley, Shinfield (PR only, not chkd on IGI):
1/1. Sarah Rapley, ch 12/4/1747 (PR)
Prob bur 8/5/1757 or 27/10/1751.
1/2. Elizabeth Rapley, ch 12/1/1751-2 (PR)
1/3. John Rapley, ch 13/10/1754 (PR - no burial found).
1/4. John Rapley, ch 28/12/1757 (PR). See under John for comments on
these two. The transcript has a cryptic comment about John 1757 - may
be Thomas? .
1/5. Ann Rapley, ch 27/4/1760 (PR)
Shinfield PR: William Collis m Ann Rapley, 4/10/1779, both of
Swallowfield.
1/6. Hannah Rapley, ch 23/1/1763 (PR).
Burial records of this period do not generally comment on who the deceased was,
beyond the name.
Also found issue by Jane & John, Fanny 5/9/1749
And Mary (20/11/1748) & Edward (2/1/1743) of Edward & Jane.
Bur: Jane Rapley, 27/2/1751
Benjamin & Joseph Rapley, 9/1/1745.
Mar Edward Rapley & Ann Flight 20/12/1757, both OTP
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KO11/225
PR shows:
Born: nil at Swallowfield from 1639 on. Many elsewhere
Parents:
Siblings: Richard ??? (dau Ann by Mary M 3/2/1704).
Married: Mary
Issue of Thomas & Mary King, Swallowfield:
1/1. William King (8/5/1684),
1/2. Mary King (2/2/1690),
Did this Mary King marry Joan Soan, 20/4/1721?
1/3. John King (6/3/1693),
Issue of John
& Elizabeth King (IGI):
2/1. John King (16/6/1728),
2/2. Mary King (4/9/1731),
2/3. Ann King (4/1734).
1/4. William King (26/1/1696),
A William King
Married ?? Ann Road, Swallowfield, 2/5/1720. ??
Issue:
2/1. Sarah King (26/1/1721),
2/2. Ann King (28/2/1722),
1/5. Thomas King (19/4/1702),
(PR) KO10/113
Other IGI info:
Charles King ch 14/4/1670 ex Edward
William King married Jane Rod(?) 121/6/1690, Swallowfield.
William K bur 8/5/1694 (ch 1684??)
Edward bur 3/12/1708 & 4/11/1729
William Dyer m Elizabeth K 19/9/1735, both of Sw @ St Giles Reading
William King bur Sw 15/1/1732
Mary King bur Sw 4/5/1732.
Mary King bur Sw 3/6/1688.
Deaths: John King 26/6/1741, Swallowfield
Ann King 11/4/1735, Swallowfield.
PR has
John b abt 1672 Swallowfield (IGI). No IGI marriages - were they
non-conformists with the name Temperance? Elizabeth the only issue on the IGI.
There is a will of John Knight in Reading:
Dated 20 August 1720, a John Knight buried 13/9/1720, Shinfield.
Inventory dated 15/9/1720.
John Knight, yeoman of Shinfield. Left legacies to sons Richard, Thomas,
Samuel, Peter & Joseph, who was the principle heir (probably the oldest).
Daughters Elizabeth & Mary, who was named Mary Headland, wife of Daniel and
their 5 children.
The inventory shows him to have had household property and farm stock,
including 8 cows and a bull, 4 bullocks, 2 fattening cows, 6 hoggs and 17
piggs, 37 sheep, 38 lambs (not a bad lambing proportion for the era) and 6
horses. Estate value £361-1-4d.
IGI has Mary Knight marrying Daniel Headland, Swallowfield, 24/10/1704.
This would imply that if this John is the father of Elizabeth who married
Thomas King, he must have had more than one wife. It does not seem possible
from IGI information to build up a picture which fits the children in the will
of 1720.
KO11/229
ChPR: 21/8/1689 Binfield PR transcript.
Parent: John Cook
Ch: 20/9/1696 St Mary Reading,
Prob too young & married by licence and so not from RSM.
Parents: Thomas & Mary (Restall) -
Married: Ann Morgan, 28/4/1709, St Mary Reading.
PR John Coock & Ann Morgan, licence.
KO11/230
Christened: 27/10/1687, St Mary, Reading. PR transcript
Parents: John & Mary (nil further on IGI)
Issue of John & Ann (Morgan) Coock (ch St Mary Reading, PR transcript):
1/1. Mary Cook, (7/1709),
1/2. Edward Cook,(4/12/1712),
1/3. Peter Cook, (30/12/1713). KO10/115.
KO11/245
ChPR 8/2/1688, Wokingham
Parents: Robert & Alice May
Married: Elizabeth Beach 20/10/1713, Wokingham. both OTP
Issue of Anthony & Eliz May, Wokingham (PR):
1/1. Elizabeth May C: 20 Aug 1714
1/2. Robert May C: 9 Apr 1719
1/3. Anthony May (16/6/1725) KO10/123
KO11/247
ChPR 6/8/1693, Wokingham
Parents: John & Mary (Blackman) Deane,
Married: Anne Howard, 23/8/1724, Wokingham, both OTP.
Issue (IGI):
1/1. Anne Deane ch 15/9/1725PR KO10/124
1/2. Mary Dean ch 14/8/1727
1/3. John Dean, ch 24/11/1729
1/4. Sarah Dean, ch 31/1/1733
KO11/249
PR/IGI: Edward Rapley ch 19/10/1687, Swallowfield, of Edward & Hannah.
Edward Rapley married Elizabeth Willis 5/10/1720, Reading St Giles
PR: no further info.
KO11/250
Parents: Thomas & Ann Willis RStM 20/1/1699 PR, a cuttler.
This line seems the most probable and is given below.
Alternative on IGI, PR not chkd: no parents 18/3/1694, Shinfield.
Issue of Edward & Elizabeth (Willis) Rapley, Reading St Giles:
1/1. John Rapley, 20/2/1726. KO10/125
1/2. Mary Rapley, ch 19/1/1729 (IGI)
Perhaps Edward Rapley, married Jane, Issue at Shinfield:
Edward Rapley, 2/1/1643, Mary 20/11/1748,
Bur Jane Rapley, 27/2/1751.
Bur: Benjamin & Jo